I have been playing around with tapestry http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry and I'm falling for the concept of reusable web components. After playing with the .Net web framework and struggeling with JSP and struts, webworks etc ending up hating development of clientside code, I find the component driven world of Tapestry a breath of fresh air.

Just being able to work with the actual application logic and leave the presentation to the components and templates makes me want to shout of glee. I'm feed up wasting my time on HTML (Its below me :) , and I'm not particularly good at design either).

RAVE (A new development enviornment) from sun, that they claim will compete with the .Net web framework sound interesting. However looking at their past failure in the development tool market I'm wondering if it will have much of an impact. And what JSR's is it based on ?