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(Guest blog by Evil Geir) I think this is brilliant, and now I understand completely what Rich is doing. My alter-ego, Good Geir - who does Apache Harmony - is somewhat bewildered. Good Geir presumes that this is the logical follow-on to the secretly successful but sadly misunderstood "Java Desktop System" product strategy, logically extending it now to the whole company. However, I think he's wrong - it makes perfect sense in the spirit of "go big, or go home". I can't imagine what Sun's partners in the Java ecosystem are going to do, but clearly Rich doesn't care. http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/java_is_everywhere (I do wonder if they'll be spinning off their server and microelectronics businesses now that they've finally settled on a business plan.) UPDATE : This blog was referenced on http://rollerweblogger.org/roller/entry/blogs_on_sun_s_new, but I think that the author missed my point - if the business objective is to unwind the notion of Java as a collaborative ecosystem, and turn it into a one-company product (like .NET), then this *is* a brilliant move. The whole fight with Apache - shafting a long-time Java supporter and valued community member by Sun ignoring their JSPA obligations and public promises for the stated purpose of defending revenue - makes perfect sense in this light. Community be damned, there's revenue here somewhere... As my good-twin Good Geir suggested, just change the "C" in JCP to mean "Customer". Geir, just get over it - your biggest issue is that Sun chose the GPL to license Java, and you hate the license because Apache is incompatible. Just move on, create a separate product, stop sniveling. --Marian Dwind, August 23, 2007 11:57 PM
Actually, you've got it exactly wrong - the fact that Sun chose GPL is their own business. If they thought it a good choice, good for them. It's their IP to do as they wish. I never asked them to put their code under an open source license. I ask that I can do my own thing (aka "freedom"), and that's what Apache Harmony is about. We *are* trying to create a separate product, but Sun finds it threatening and is doing what it can to prevent it. You might want to read up on the Java SE TCK problem before you tell me to "get over it", since you clearly don't quite understand what is going on. I'd suggest you start reading here : http://www.apache.org/jcp/sunopenletter.html and join us for discussion if you have any more questions at the jcp-open list at the ASF. --Geir Magnusson Jr, August 24, 2007 09:38 AM
learning... --rong, September 28, 2007 09:18 AM
i think like yes you know yes... ok yes i know ok you know what im saying yes... --geir, November 22, 2007 09:41 AM
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