Are you aware that a lot of companies has a strict no-LGPL policy? I think you will find it easier to "take over the world" with a more accepted license such as an Apache or BSD derivative. :-)

The LGPL has not been a problem for us, indeed it carries the great advantage in protecting our project from commercial forks, and hence increasing the perception of viability of the project. I am not aware of any companies who have decided not to use Hibernate due to our choice of the extremely business-friendly LGPL. (I /am/ aware of plenty of companies who will not use GPL stuff, but we are all well aware of the difference by now!) Indeed, the only organization I know of with a strict no-LGPL policy is Apache. This policy prevented us from considering joining Apache in the past.

At the haus, obviously, LGPL is business-friendly enough for us. I do know some organizations won't use LGPL, but I think that's a shrinking percentage, particularly when talking about things such as AW. Congrats Jonas and Alex!

I will second what Jon Tirsen says; a LOT of companies have a no-LGPL policy. I think Gavin's experience is probably limited to only people that can use LGPL, and hence Hibernate - those are smaller companies, not the larger enterprise organizations.

I will second what Jon Tirsen says; a LOT of companies have a no-LGPL policy. I think Gavin's experience is probably limited to only people that can use LGPL, and hence Hibernate - those are smaller companies, not the larger enterprise organizations.

>>I think Gavin's experience is probably limited to only people that can use LGPL, and hence Hibernate - those are smaller companies, not the larger enterprise organizations.<<

Well, certainly my experience is somewhat self-selecting, in that I am most familiar with Hibernate users. On the other hand, since some of the largest companies in the world - including several in the Fortune top 20 - are using Hibernate now, don't try to talk nonsense FUD about "smaller companies" to me.

The fact that you fear to post with your real name demonstrates how credible you think your own comment is.

well, if what I post is "fud" then what you post is what? You posted your opinion, I posted mine. If you think either one carries more weight, you are free to your opinion. I have worked for a number of large enterprise organizations, and I certainly sell into the global 2000 and talk to a ton of IT department heads on a regular basis - That's my job as product manager. You're experience is that of a developer and you definitely have a fine product - your user basis is rabid (that's a good thing), but I don't think you really ever see the other side; the people that can't even consider using Hibernate.